Boring's Interesting ARRB Interview

 

By Vince Palamara

 

     With a few notable, albeit largely overlooked exceptions1, Floyd Boring

was a relatively new name to the research community when this author wrote a

detailed article about this former #2 Assistant-Special-Agent-In-Charge

(ASAIC) of the White House Detail (WHD) entitled "Boring Is Interesting" in

the May 1995 "Fourth Decade (based off the author's 9/22/93 & 3/4/94

interviews)."2

     In October 1995, this author gave a presentation at the 2nd annual

Coalition on Political Assassinations conference and wrote a follow-up article

entitled "More Boring Details" which appeared in the Nov.  1995 "Fourth

Decade". However, it was from the author's COPA appearance that the name of

Floyd Boring perked the attention of Tom Samoluk of the Assassination Records

Review Board (ARRB)---Samoluk contacted the author, I donated all of my audio

tapes and correspondence from all of my Secret Service/ related interviews,

and the rest is history.3

     Nevertheless, there is a twist: unbeknownst to me until the publication

of a recent book4, I had no idea that the ARRB actually followed through with

one of my suggestions (although they had followed up on two others5) and

interviewed Mr. Boring...but they did. On September 18, 1996, a mere 2 days

after I received the Deed of Gift from the National Archives regarding my

donations, Dr. Joan Zimmerman and Doug Horne of the ARRB interviewed Mr.

Boring at his home in Maryland. The interview was even audiotaped with Mr.

Boring's consent. The ARRB interview of Floyd Boring is in the ARRB's medical

documents and deposiions box released in July of 1998.  It is MD 259.  Actually, it’s a

 summary of the interview not a transcript.

 

"Who? Me? Why?"

 

     The interview begins with Boring exclaiming "I didn't have anything to do

with it, and I don't know anything." Let's replay that again: "I didn't have

anything to do with it"---what, the assassination or the Texas trip?

     "I don't know anything"---he sure knew enough about the Texas trip to

tell Chief James Rowley via a written report 6 months after the assassination6

AND in his 1976 JFK Library Oral History, as well as his two talks with me!

Boring also claimed that "he had never spoken with anyone at all in the Secret

Service about any aspect of the Kennedy assassination", another statement that

is very hard to swallow, especially seeing that Boring founded the Retired

Secret Service Agent's Association in 1969.7

 

Pulling the strings in D.C.

 

     In any event, Horne writes "Contrary to his disclaimer, the interview

proved to be worthwhile and interesting in a number of respects." Boring

confirmed that he had never been interviewed by the WC, the HSCA, or any other

government body in regard to the JFK assassination.8 Boring claimed that he

was enjoying a day off at his home on 11/22/63 when he heard the news of the

assassination on the radio.9

     This ARRB interview provides startling new information, and that is that

Floyd Boring confirms that he was in charge of planning the Texas trip.  It

also sheds light on the totality of Boring’s relationship with Texas trip

planning, especially questionable security matters.

 

First, author Jim Bishop revealed this fact in the 1960's in his book "The Day

Kennedy Was Shot":

 

     p. 558 [1992 edition] "...(LBJ) called Secret Service Chief James Rowley.

Rufe did a brave thing today,’ he said. ‘He jumped on me and kept me down. I

want you to do whatever you can, the best that can be done, for that boy." He

hung up (this was 11/22/63). It had not occurred to him that Rowley, too, was

lonely. If there was any blame, any official laxness, it didn't matter that

THE PLANNING OF THE TEXAS TRIP HAD BEEN IN THE CAPABLE HANDS OF FLOYD

BORING."

(Emphasis added)

 

And, to the JFK Library in the 1970's:

 

     "Part of my job at the White House during the entire President Kennedy

administration was to be in charge of the advance work."

 

To the Truman Library in the 1980's:

 

     "I was on all the advance work out of there. I was assigned all the

advance work, sort of an administrator... I was second in charge [behind

Special Agent in Charge Jerry Behn]."

 

Finally, fellow former agent Sam Kinney (the driver of the follow-up car on

11/22/63):

 

     In regard to SAIC Gerald A. "Jerry" Behn's absence from the Texas trip,

leaving ASAIC (#2) Floyd M. Boring to be the agent in charge of the Texas

trip, Kinney said: "I'll tell you how that happened. We got, as agents,

federal employees, 30 days a year annual leave, but they couldn't let us

off...there was only " x " amount of agents back then in the whole country.

Jerry Behn probably worked three years without annual leave so he decided to

take some time off...Roy Kellerman was third in charge-he's qualified. Floyd

Boring stayed  home- he could still handle what ever came about from his

house; there [was] very little correspondence between the agents in Dallas

because Win Lawson had the advance."

 

     Back to the ARRB interview: "Boring independently recalled that he was

the person who assigned Winston Lawson as the S.S. advance agent for the

Dallas leg of the Texas trip10, but could not recall why or how "Win" Lawson

was given that assignment." So much for Boring's 'disclaimer' "I didn't have

anything to do with it, and I don't know anything."

 

A curious limousine inspection

 

     Boring initially claimed that his activities on 11/22/63 "were limited to

going directly from his home to Andrews AFB to meet the (new)

President11---and that he escorted President Johnson on his helicopter from

Andrews to the White House, after which he went directly home"; the latter

part of this statement, that Boring went directly home, is NOT backed up by

the documentary record, nor by Boring's own admitted actions.

     Horne wrote: "When asked who directed him to go to Andrews AFB, Mr.

Boring said that nobody asked him to go there---that he just did it on his

own...

     In about the middle of the interview, Mr. Boring remembered that he and

Mr. [Paul J.] Paterni had inspected the President's limousine and the Secret

Service follow-up car, but was unsure whether they had inspected them the

night President Johnson returned to Washington (11/22/63), or the next morning

(11/23/63)." Actually, Boring and Paterni inspected the limo from 10:10 p.m.

the night of 11/22/63 until 12:01 a.m., one minute into 11/23/63 (the FBI

inspected the limo afterwards, starting at 1:00 a.m.).12

     Furthermore, "When asked who directed he and Paterni to search the

automobiles, he said that no one had; he said he thought it might be a good

idea and had suggested it himself to Paterni, and that they undertook this

search as independent action on their own initiative." Interestingly, they

also beat Chief Rowley and ASAIC Kellerman to the punch, as the record

indicates that they had also thought of the idea while at AAFB.13 (Just to be

clear, Rowley and Kellerman did not inspect the limousine at all.)   

     Continuing on: "After independently recalling that they had searched the

cars, Mr. Boring said that he had discovered a piece of skull bone with brain

attached14 in the rear of the follow-up car (the black Cadillac convertible

called the "Queen Mary"), in the footwell just in front of the back seat

bench. He said during follow-up questioning that the dimensions of this skull

bone-brain fragment were approximately 1" X 2". He said that he never picked

it up or touched it himself, but that he simply pointed it out to Mr. Paterni

(Mr. Paterni was Deputy Chief of the Secret Service)15 He said he did not

write a report about this, and he did not know whether Mr. Paterni had written

a report or not."16

     What makes Boring's recollections of the limo inspection particularly

troublesome is the fact that he "made very clear during the [ARRB] interview

that this fragment was in the rear of the follow-up car, not in the rear seat

of the presidential limousine.

     This would be the only known instance of anyone claiming to have found

JFK bone fragments in the Secret Service follow-up car.

     Initially, ARRB staff members Zimmerman and Horne had misunderstood Mr.

Boring to mean that the bone-brain fragment was in the rear seat of the

President's limousine, and Mr. Boring took specific pains to correct their

misunderstanding during follow-on discussion of this matter.

     However, Boring called Horne the next day to place a correction (and,

thus, a retraction) on the record: he now felt that the skull bone-and-brain

fragment he saw "must have been in the back seat of the President's limousine,

and not the follow-up car. He said that his stroke may perhaps have had

something to do with his error." (Boring had a stroke in the early 90's,

1991-1992ish).

     During his inspection of the limousine with Paterni Boring found bullet

fragments as well.  These bullet fragments were turned over to Orrin Bartlett,

the FBI's liaison officer with the Secret Service (3H p. 435).  Bartlet turned

them over to Robert Frazier in person in the FBI lab.  These bullet fragments

became CE 567 and CE 569. (See - CD 80; RIF# 180-10001-10041; 2H p. 90

(Kellerman); 5 H p. 67(Frazier); 7 HSCA p. 389;)

     Boring’s stroke may also explain why Boring now has NO recollection of

finding any bullet fragments at all in the limousine (only the skull

fragment), and also may explain why he could not remember, one way or the

other, the condition of the limousine's windshield and chrome strip.17

 

op-ed about his colleagues

 

     The ARRB interview states, "When shown the HSCA summary of its interview

with Miami SAIC John Marshall, specifically Marshall's twice expressed opinion

that there may have been a Secret Service conspiracy18, Mr. Boring expressed

surprise at those sentiments and said he had never heard that opinion

expressed by SAIC Marshall, a personal friend of his from their previous

association as Pennsylvania State Troopers.

     “When shown the HSCA interview summary with Miami field officer SA Ernest

Aragon, specifically Aragon's allegations of Secret Service security lapses

19, he said he would not agree with that statement, and expressed the opinion

that SA Aragon may not have known what he was talking about.

     “Mr. Boring was asked to read and comment on several pages of the HSCA

6/1/77 interview transcript20 with former graduate student James Gouchenaur,

in which Gochenaur recounted a very long conversation he reportedly had with

SA Elmer Moore in 1970.  Mr. Boring examined the portions of the transcript in

which Gouchenaur quoted Moore as saying that Kennedy was a traitor for giving

things away to the Russians; that it was a shame people had to die, but maybe

it was a good thing; that the Secret Service personnel had to go along with

the way the assassination was being investigated ("I did everything I was

told, we all did everything we were told, or we'd get our heads cut off"); and

that he felt remorse for the way he (Moore) had badgered Dr. Perry into

changing his testimony to the effect that there was not, after all, an

entrance wound in the front of the president's neck.  Mr. Boring said that it

would be just like SA Moore to give such a lengthy interview, but that he

doubted very much whether agent Moore had really said those things."

     In addition, "Mr. Boring was shown the HSCA interview of SA [George]

Hickey, and was asked to read the portion wherein Mr. Hickey stated that Mr.

Boring came down to the garage and told him statements were being collected in

the White House, and directed (or suggested) that he go and write down his

statement.21 His response to this was that he did not remember even seeing SA

Hickey in the White House garage, nor did he remember seeing SA Kinney, or any

other Secret Service agents, or FBI agents, during the automobile searches

[plural]. He did have some vague recollection of White House police being

there."22

 

Security Striping measure #1

Agents off the limo: a JFK order or an anecdote?

 

     Evidence against Mr. Boring “not have anything to do with it”, meaning

his involvement in Texas trip planning include his participation, directly and

indirectly through subordinates personally selected by him of what can only be

called security stripping measures. The first of which involves removing

agents from the rear of the limousine.

     "Mr. Boring was asked to read pages 136-137 of Clint Hill's Warren

Commission testimony [Vol. 2], in which Clint Hill recounted that Floyd Boring

had told him just days prior to the assassination that during the President's

Tampa trip on Monday, 11/18/63, JFK had requested that agents not ride on the

rear steps of the limousine, and that Boring had also so informed other agents

of the White House detail, and that as a result, agents in Dallas (except

Clint Hill, on brief occasions) did not ride on the rear steps of the

limousine.

     MR BORING AFFIRMED THAT HE DID MAKE THESE STATEMENTS TO CLINT HILL, BUT

STATED THAT HE WAS NOT RELAYING A POLICY CHANGE, BUT RATHER SIMPLY TELLING

AN

ANECDOTE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S KINDNESS AND CONSIDERATION IN TAMPA IN NOT

WANTING AGENTS TO HAVE TO RIDE ON THE REAR OF THE LINCOLN LIMOUSINE WHEN IT

WAS NOT NECESSARY TO DO SO BECAUSE OF A LACK OF CROWDS ALONG THE STREET."

(Emphasis added).

     I find this admission startling, especially because the one agent who

decided to ride on the rear of the limousine in Dallas anyway---and on at

least 4 different occasions--- was none other than CLINT HILL himself!

     This also does not address what the agents were to do when the crowds

were heavier, or even what exactly constituted a "crowd", as AGENTS DID RIDE

ON THE REAR STEPS OF THE LIMOUSINE IN TAMPA ON NOVEMBER 18, 1963 ANYWAY

(agents Donald  J. Lawton, Andrew E. Berger, & Charles T. Zboril, to be

exact)23!

     Furthermore, Clint Hill's written report (as well as his testimony) sure

conveys a more strict approach than one stemming from an alleged, kind

anecdote; in fact, Hill twice stated he DID NOT RECALL who the agent was who

told him, and the other agents, not to ride on the rear of the limousine:

     "I, Special Agent Clinton J. Hill, never personally was requested by

President John F. Kennedy not to ride on the rear of the Presidential

automobile. I DID RECEIVE INFORMATION PASSED VERBALLY FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE

OFFICES OF THE WHITE HOUSE DETAIL OF THE SECRET SERVICE TO AGENTS ASSIGNED

TO

THAT DETAIL THAT PRESIDENT KENNEDY HAD MADE SUCH REQUESTS. I DO NOT KNOW

FROM

WHOM I RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION. It was general knowledge on the White House

Detail, however, that President Kennedy has asked Special Agent in Charge

Gerald A. Behn, not to have Special Agents ride on the rear of the

Presidential Automobile [Behn denied to me that President Kennedy made such a

request.  Films and photos from 1963 appear to confirm Behn’s story that JFK

never made such a request]. NO WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS REGARDING THIS WERE EVER

DISTRIBUTED.

     Hill continues, "I was informed that on November 18, 1963, in Tampa,

Florida, President Kennedy had requested through Assistant Special Agent in

Charge Floyd M. Boring that Special Agents remove themselves from the rear of

the Presidential automobile. I WAS NOT ON THIS SPECIFIC TRIP WITH THE WHITE

HOUSE DETAIL AND RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S RETURN TO

WASHINGTON, D.C. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN BETWEEN NOVEMBER 19, 1963, AND

NOVEMBER

21, 1963 [NOTE TIME FRAME!]. I DO NOT KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHO ADVISED ME OF THIS

REQUEST BY THE PRESIDENT.

 

     So, what do we have exactly?  Something allegedly happens on the Tampa

trip, or is attributed to the Tampa trip after the fact by Boring.  Yet, no

one on the trip actually left the bumper or recalls being told to leave and

stay off the bumper per a presidential request.  The Secret Service agents to

whom this order would apply to deny this happened.  This story does exist

though, and spreads through word of mouth, by Boring to agents who were not

involved in the Tampa trip such as Clint Hill to whom it is stated as a new

policy to be implemented on the next trip, which would be Texas.

     Look at what Hill writes “I DID RECEIVE INFORMATION PASSED VERBALLY FROM

THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OF THE WHITE HOUSE DETAIL OF THE SECRET SERVICE

TO

AGENTS ASSIGNED TO THAT DETAIL THAT PRESIDENT KENNEDY HAD MADE SUCH

REQUESTS.

     Well, who’s in this administrative office of the Secret Service’s White

House Detail?  Boring. The “general knowledge” Hill speaks of would more

appropriately be coming from Boring, not Behn.  Behn denied it outright.

Boring was on the Tampa trip from which this information is allegedly coming

from.

     Boring’s non-denial denial, that it was only an anecdote denoting the

kindness of JFK is refuted by Boring himself when Manchester pens the tale.

     Floyd Boring categorically denied what William Manchester reports on pp.

37-38 of his book [1988 edition]: "Kennedy grew weary of seeing bodyguards

roosting behind him every time he turned around, and in Tampa on November 18

[1963], just four days before his death, he dryly asked Agent Floyd Boring to

'keep those Ivy League charlatans off the back of the car.' Boring wasn't

offended. There had been no animosity in the remark."

     Boring told me "I never told him that".

     As far as the merit of the quote, Boring told me: "No, no, no-that's not

true." When asked, point blank, if JFK had ever ordered the agents off the

rear of the limousine, including in Tampa on 11/18/63, Boring told me "Well,

that's not true. That's not true.  He was a very nice man; he never interfered

with us at all."

     In regard to Tampa, Floyd said "He actually- No, I told them...He didn't

tell them anything...He just- I looked at the back of the car and I seen these

fellahs (ZBoril and Lawton) were hanging on the limousine- I told them to

return to the (follow-up) car. He (JFK) was a very easy-going guy; he didn't

interfere with our actions at all".

     Boring confirmed what he had previously told me on 9/22/93 and 3/4/94

when he wrote that "President Kennedy was a very congenial man knowing most

agents by their first name. He was very cooperative with the Secret Service,

and well liked and admired by all of us.[letter received 11/22/97]"

     So, Boring would have you believe it was just routine, as agents would

sometimes hop back and forth from the rear of the limousine to the Secret

Service follow up car.  However, again Boring does not really deny the story

as much as he puts a spin on it.  All Boring said was he did not speak with

Manchester.  The tenor and tone of the story are essentially the same.  We

cannot check if Boring did speak with Manchester as Manchester’s materials are

withheld from the public. 

     So, while it is indeed being spread, as policy, Boring can say afterwards

it was only a harmless retelling of an anecdote.  And he can deny it by saying

he never spoke with Manchester.  However, Boring is the only one who admits to

any truth to the story, and the only one not to totally deny it.  Remember,

Boring is admitting it came from him, and not JFK.  Everyone else totally

denies it, it never came from JFK, not even as an anecdotal story.

     Boring’s story, whether actual or not, whether anecdotal or not

somehow grows after the Tampa trip into policy.  This verbal story is used as

policy, though never written down, for the preparation for the Texas trip,

something which had never occurred before.

     Oddly, if this is new policy, it goes into practice only in Dallas.

Clint Hill does recall hearing it, as policy, though he can’t recall from whom

he heard it according to his written report. However, he named none other than Floyd Boring

as THE source during his Warren Commission testimony mentioned above" or words to

that effect. [It's important to note that Hill was twice coy about naming his source in his WRITTEN

statement, yet named the source---Boring---under oath to Arlen Specter

of the WC]. Hill does disobey it 4 times but that does not necessarily mean

the policy did not exist.  He may have felt he should be obeying it as he does

not stay on the rear bumper for any appreciable lenght of time. And the other

agents do stay on the follow up car.

     Interestingly, in viewing slow motion video footage of the Love Field

departure [WFAA/ABC TV video], one can see agent Henry J. Rybka [25H787]

attempt to get on the back of the limousine only to be recalled by none other

than Emory P. Roberts, who rises in his seat in the follow-up car and hand-

gestures Rybka to cease and desist. Giving Roberts the benefit of the doubt,

it a ppears that Borings' orders to not have any agents ride on the back of

the limousine were well taken.

     After the assassination there are reports that JFK had previously made

such requests prior to the Tampa trip.  Yet, photos from these trips prove

these statements to be false, as well as the lack of any record or document to

that effect.

 

 

The truth - JFK never ordered Secret Service agents off the limo

 

     Gerald A. Behn, SAIC of WHD "I don't remember Kennedy ever saying that he

didn't want anybody on the back of his car. I think if you watch the newsreel

pictures and whatnot [sic] you'll find agents on there from time to  time". As

just one of many examples, Behn cited the June 1963 trip to Berlin (There are

many others.)24;

 

     Arthur L. Godfrey, ATSAIC of WHD: "That's a bunch of baloney; that's not

true. He never ordered us to do anything. He was a very nice

man...cooperative". Asked if whether Aide Ken O'Donnell did any similar

ordering, Godfrey said emphatically "he did not order anyone around". As just

one example, Godfrey was on the Italy trip and agents frequently rode on the

rear of the limousine- one of the agents was none other than Winston G. Lawson

25. In a letter dated 11/24/97, Godfrey stated the following: "All I can speak

for is myself. When I was working [with] President Kennedy he never ask[ed] me

to have my shift leave the limo when we [were] working it," thus confirming

what he had also told me telephonically on two prior occasions;

 

     David F. Powers: " Unless they [the Secret Service] were 'running' along

beside the limo, the Secret Service rode in a car behind the President, so,

no, they never had to be told to 'get off' the limo."26

 

     Samuel A. Kinney, WHD: "That is absolutely, positively false...no, no,

no, he had nothing to do with that (ordering agents off the rear of the

limo)...No, never-the agents say, 'O.K., men, fall back on your

posts'...President Kennedy was one of the easiest presidents to ever protect;

Harry S. Truman was a jewel just like John F. Kennedy was...99% of the agents

would agree...(JFK) was one of the best presidents ever to control-he trusted

every one of us".

     In regard to the infamous quote from William Manchester, Kinney said,

"That is false. I talked to William Manchester; he called me on the book

[sic]...for the record of history that is false - Kennedy never ordered us to

do anything. I am aware of what is being said but that is false".   

     Finally, just to nail down this issue, I asked Kinney if an exception was

made on 11/22/63: "Not this particular time, no. Not in this case". Kinney

also told me that JFK had nothing to do with the limiting of motorcycles

during motorcades, and that Ken O'Donnell did not interfere with the agents,

"Nobody ordered anyone around"27;

 

     Robert E. Lilley, WHD: "Oh, I'm sure he didn't.  He was very cooperative

with us once he became President.  He was extremely cooperative.  Basically,

'whatever you guys want is the way it will be'." 

     Lilley also refuted the Manchester account, adding that on a trip with

JFK in Caracas, Venezuela, he and "Roy Kellerman rode on the back of the

limousine all the way to the Presidential palace" at speeds reaching "50 miles

per hour" (with the bubble-top on [which Lilley believed  "might deflect a

bullet."])28;

 

     Donald J. Lawton: When I told Lawton what fellow agent Kinney told me,

that JFK never ordered the agents off the rear of the limousine, he said "It's

the way Sam said, yes". (Meaning he agress with Kinney, it happened the way

Kinney said.)

     Asked to explain how he dismounted the rear of the limousine in Tampa, he

said, " I didn't hear the President say it, no. The word was relayed to us-

you know, 'come back to the follow-up car'".

     According to Lawton, JFK was "very personable...very warm".

     Asked about the tragedy in Dallas, Lawton said, "everyone felt bad. It

was our job to protect the President. You still have regrets, remorse. Who

knows, IF THEY HAD LEFT GUYS ON THE BACK OF THE CAR...you can hindsight

yourself to death" (emphasis added).  

     And, from his letter to the author dated 11/22/97: "Since I am currently

employed by the Secret Service I do not believe it appropriate that I comment

on former or current protectees of the Service. If you spoke with Bob Lilley

as you stated then you can take whatever information he passed on to you as

gospel.29;

 

     Robert I. Bouck, SAIC of PRS: confirmed that having agents on the back of

the limousine depended on factors independent of any alleged presidential

"requests"30;

 

     Rufus W. Youngblood, ASAIC of LBJ Detail: Youngblood confirmed that

"there was not a standing order" from JFK to restrict agents from the back of

the limousine - the agents had "assigned posts and positions" on the back of

the President's car.  On 2/8/94, Youngblood added: "President Kennedy wasn't a

hard ass...he never said anything like that. As a historian, he (Manchester)

flunked the course---don't read Manchester!31";

 

     Abraham W. Bolden, Sr., WHD/ Chicago office: In reference to Kennedy's

alleged "requests", Mr. Bolden told the author that he "didn't hear anything

about that...I never believed that Kennedy said that"32;

 

     John Norris, Uniformed Division of the Secret Service: Norris also joined

his colleagues in refuting the notion that JFK ordered the agents off the rear

of the limo33;

 

     Maurice G. Martineau, SAIC of Chicago office: Martineau joined his

colleagues in refuting the Manchester story that JFK ordered the agents off

the rear of the car.34 Martineau said this to me in two telephonic interviews.

 

     Cecil Stoughton, WH photographer: "I did see a lot of the activity

surrounding the various trips of the President, and in many cases I did see

the agents in question riding on the rear of the President's car. In fact, I

have ridden there a number of times myself during trips...I would jump on the

step on the rear of the [Lincoln] Continental until the next stop. I have made

photos while hanging on with one hand...in Tampa [11/18/63], for example. As

for the [alleged] edict of not riding there by order of the President- I can't

give you any proof of first hand knowledge."

     Stoughton went on to write: "I am bothered by your interest in these

matters"(!).

     In a later letter, Stoughton merely corroborated his prior written

statements: "I would just jump on and off [the limo] quickly- no routine, and

Jackie had no further remarks to me."35;

     It should be explained that according to Stoughton's book [see footnote

35], Jackie had told him to stay close to the limo in July 1963, and he did up

to and including the Tampa trip of 11/18/63 AND the Houston, TX trip of

11/21/63 (there are photos that Stoughton made from the follow-up car that

day, as well). Then, for some unknown reason, Stoughton was relegated to a

position further away from JFK.

 

     Martin E. Underwood, DNC advance man: The advance man confirmed to this

author that JFK did not restrict agents from riding on the Presidential

limousine (He could not believe that Mr. Behn wrote his report with JFK's

alleged "desires", citing Clint Hill's actions on 11/22/63 as just one of

"many times" that agents were posted on the back of the JFK limousine)36;

 

     Press Secretary Pierre Salinger: JFK had a good relationship with the

Secret Service and, more importantly, did NOT argue with their security

measures.37

 

     Jerry D. Kivett, WHD: "[JFK] was beloved by those agents on the detail

and I never heard anyone say that he was difficult to protect."38;

 

     June Kellerman, the widow of Roy H. Kellerman, ASAIC WHD: "Roy did not

say that JFK was difficult to protect."39;

 

     Jean Brownell Behn, widow of the late Gerald A. Behn, SAIC WHD (see

above): Jerry did not like William Manchester's book "The Death of a

President" and confirmed that she also did not believe that JFK had ever

conveyed to Jerry the idea of having the agents not ride on the rear of the

limousine. In a follow-up letter she stated that "The only thing I can tell

you is that Jerry always said 'Don't believe anything you hear and only half

of what you read'40;

 

     Chief James J. Rowley: "No President will tell the Secret Service what

they can or cannot do."41

 

      Charles T. Zboril, WHD, Lawton's partner on the rear of the limo in

Tampa on 11/18/63 was the only agent I spoke to who did not give me a straight

answer, one way  or the other, : "Well, Don Lawton and I are just sub-notes

[sic] because somebody else testified in behalf of us about what happened in

Tampa"- this was Clint Hill, testifying to Arlen Specter about why agents were

not on the rear of the car during the assassination.

     When I asked him if it was true that JFK had really ordered the agents

off the limousine four days before Dallas, which I already knew not to be

true, Zboril got emotional: "WHERE DID YOU READ THAT? I...If-if you read it in

the Warren Report, that's what happened...DO YOU WANT ME COMMENTING

OFFICIALLY? I'm speaking to someone I don't know... I gave you more than I

would give someone else". Zboril then gave me his address and requested that I

send him anything on this matter and he promised to respond to me...he never

did.

 

     Jim Bishop sums up the situation best: "no one wanted to weigh the

possibilities that, IF A SECRET SERVICE  MAN HAD BEEN ON THE LEFT [OR RIGHT]

REAR BUMPER GOING DOWN ELM STREET, it would have been difficult to hit

President Kennedy (emphasis added)42"

 

 

     FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to President Lyndon B. Johnson, 1:40 p.m.,

11/29/63: "You see, there was no Secret Service man standing on the back of

the car. Usually the presidential car in the past has had steps on the back,

next to the bumpers, and there's usually been one [agent] on either side

standing on these steps...[ellipsis in text]...Whether the President asked

that that not be done, we don't know."43

 

     In a letter dated 4/3/64, WC general counsel J. Lee Rankin had written to

Secret Service Chief James J. Rowley "requesting further information

concerning expressions by President Kennedy regarding the placement of Secret

Service agents on or near the car during the motorcade", obviously meaning THE

motorcade of 11/22/63.44 Since JFK was conveniently dead and there was nothing

in the record to indicate that Kennedy had said anything that morning, Rowley

mailed back five reports on 4/22/64 to try to "satisfy" the WC, who obviously

were not satisfied by the testimonies of Greer, Kellerman, Hill, or Youngblood

on  March 9, 1964.45

     These five reports- by agents Boring[dated 4/8/64]46, Roberts [dated

4/10/64]47, Ready [dated 4/11/64]48, Behn [dated 4/16/64]49 and Hill

[undated]50- make much of JFK's alleged comments to agent Boring on 11/18/63

about getting the agents who were riding on the rear of the limo the hell off

of there, as well as "general common knowledge" that this had happened before,

even before the Tampa motorcade.

     However, as I uncovered during the interviews for my manuscript, and

which has been demonstrated so far, this was totally fabricated.51  Each and

every one of these reports is a lie, or used for a lie.

     Boring already dodgey on Tampa, flat out lies about JFK's trip to Italy.

The ARRB's Doug Horne writes: "Mr. Boring remembered preparing his written

statement, and verified that the copy shown to him was indeed his statement.

"Although primarily about the 11/18/63 Tampa trip, Boring also mentions

another time---the July 1963 Italy trip---where JFK had also made an alleged

request to not have the agents ride on the rear of the limousine.”

     However, as with the Tampa trip, agents DID ride on the rear of the

limousine, as recently discovered film from the JFK Library, obtained through

my efforts, reveals ("JFK's Trip to Italy, 7/2/63", courtesy of Jim Cedrone/

JFK Library. This footage was shown at COPA 1996).

     Also, compare Boring’s statement here with Arthur L. Godfrey, ATSAIC of

WHD statements on the Italy trip above.

     Roberts' report is merely a confirmation of hearing BORING over the radio

in the Tampa motorcade telling the agents to get off the rear of the

limousine-it says nothing of JFK's alleged "desires".

     Now deceased, Roberts was the commander of the 7 other agents who rode in

the follow-up car with him in Dallas. Roberts had, according to the driver of

the follow-up car, Samuel A. Kinney, ORDERED THE AGENTS NOT TO MOVE AFTER THE

FIRST SHOT SOUNDED (author's interviews with Sam Kinney, 3/5/94 and 4/15/94)!

Roberts had recognized the first shot as a RIFLE blast (18H p.734-735), yet

recalled agent John D. "Jack" Ready who had begun to move in JFK's direction.

Ready was the agent who was ASSIGNED to JFK's side of the limousine (as Clint

Hill was assigned to Jackie's side[18H749-750]).

     Roberts came to Ready's rescue in another report: "SA Ready would have

done the same thing (as Agent Hill did) if motorcycle was not at President's

corner of car"(!) [18 H 738]---- Strange, but this posed no problem at all for

Agent Don Lawton on November 18, 1963, in Tampa  (but unfortunately, like

Rybka, Lawton was left at Love Field and was not in the motorcade detail).

     This begs the question, were Rybka and Lawton the two agents who were

supposed to have rode the rear of the limousine?

     Ready mentions the 11/18/63 Florida trip in his report but HE WASN'T EVEN

THERE! “Although I was not in Tampa, Florida, Monday, November 18, 1963, it

was known to me that President Kennedy requested, through Assistant Special

Agent in Charge Floyd M. Boring, that two agents be removed from the rear

steps of the presidential vehicle during a motorcade in that city.” (emphasis

added)

     There is reason to believe Behn did not even write his report as it has a

STAMPED (stamp pad) signature (similar to other reports contained in the WC

volumes and elsewhere; not hand-written). When one considers the fact that a

subordinate agent from the Miami office, SA Robert Jamison, signed a vital

Secret Service document as if he were the SAIC (in this case,John Marshall),

the possibility that someone else merely stamped this type-written report with

Behn's stamp pad signature is certainly not above the realm of possibility.

(Behn's office was shared with ASAIC's Kellerman and Boring).

     And Hill’s report is undated.

     Behn’s, Boring’s, and Hill’s are not even on any Secret Service or

Treasury Dept. stationary, just blank sheets of paper.

     All are supposedly evidence of JFK expressing his desire to keep Secret

Service agents off the limousine in Tampa and previous to Tampa.

     And, again, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT JFK SAID OR "REQUESTED" ON

NOVEMBER 22, 1963, THE CRITICAL DAY IN QUESTION!

 

Security Stripping Measure #2

Noisy motorcycles reduced and placed rearward for conversational purposes?

 

     The ARRB interview of Boring goes on to say, "When asked whether the

Secret Service had any standard procedures regarding size and placement of

motorcycle escort for the President's limousine in motorcades, Boring said to

the ARRB that there was no standard protocol for this, since local resources

were different from site to site. He then stated that the Secret Service would

place motorcycles wherever the local authorities would want them, and that the

Secret Service would not try to tell local law enforcement authorities where

to place motorcycles around the limousine---he said that if the Secret Service

had tried to do such a thing, that the local authorities would not have

listened anyway. He said that in regard to matters like this, local

authorities wouldn't take orders from the Secret Service, but instead had to

be coaxed. He also stated that placing motorcycles alongside the limousine

would not have been a good idea, since they were so noisy that the President

would not have been able to have a conversation with the car's occupants."

 

Now, for the real story:

 

     On November 20th, with no secret service men present, it was agreed that

eighteen motorcycles would be used, some positioned along side the limousine

(similar to the plan used in the prior Texas cities of San Antonio, Houston,

and Fort Worth).

     There was another meeting on November 21, 1963 in which those plans were

changed.51

     Captain Perdue Lawrence of the Dallas Police testified to the Warren

Commission that 2 days before the assassination he met with Chief Lunday and

Chief Batchelor and discussed the motorcycple plans for the motorcade.  “I was

told that there would be these lead motorcycle officers, and that we would

also have these other officers alongside the President's car and the Vice

President's car, and some of the others that would be in the motorcade, and

approximately how many officers would be needed for the escort, and at that

time I had prepared a list of 18 solo motorcycle officers, this included three

solo sergeants.

     “I was also instructed that about this motorcade--that when it reached

Stemmons Expressway, Chief Batchelor told me that he wanted a solo motorcycle

officer in each traffic lane, each of the five traffic lanes waiting for the

motorcade, so that no vehicles, on Stemmons Expressway would pass the

motorcade at all and he wanted these solo motorcycle officers to pull away

from the escort and get up there on Stemmons Freeway and block the traffic,

and some of these officers, he stated, would pull past the Presidential car.”

     Then on November 21, 1963, a change occurs.  “This was the first time

that I had attended any security meeting at all in regards to this motorcade.

At approximately 5 p.m. I was told to report to the conference room on the

third floor, and when I arrived at the conference room the deputy chiefs were

in there, there were members of the Secret Service--Mr. Sorrels, Captain

Gannaway, Captain Souter of radio patrol, and Capt. Glen King, deputy chiefs,

assistant chiefs, and Chief Curry, and one gentleman, who I assume was in

charge of the security for the Secret Service. This was the first time I had

attended any conferences in regard to the security of this escort, and I

listened in on most of the discussion and I heard one of the Secret Service

men say that President Kennedy did not desire any motorcycle officer directly

on each side of him, between him and the crowd, but he would want the officers

to the rear. This conversation I overheard as Chief Batchelor was using a

blackboard showing how he planned to handle this--how plans had been made to

cover the escort.”52

     Remember, according to Boring, “the Secret Service would not try to tell

local law enforcement authorities where to place motorcycles around the

limousine-

     Secret Service Agent David Grant, who would have known of Kennedy's

alleged "desires" via Boring (Grant was an advance man for the Florida and